A confused, frustrated man cannot get relief by committing suicide because suicide will simply lead him to take birth in the lower species of life or to remain a ghost, unable to attain a gross material body. Therefore the perfect course is to retire altogether from sinful activities and take up Krsna consciousness. In this way one can become completely perfect and go back home, back to Godhead. (SB 4.26.10, purport)

Haridasa must have committed suicide by drinking poison, and because of this sinful act, he has now become a brähmana ghost. (CC Antya 2.156)

Just like foolish person suffering from some disease, he wants to kill himself, sometimes commit suicide, because he does not know that after suicide, the policy, there is no stoppage; he will have to become a ghost because you have disobeyed. God has given you certain type of body. You have to stay in that body for certain period. That is obedience to God. If you untimely kill this body, then it is sinful. Just like you are put into prison house for a certain number of months or years. Before that period, if you flee away, then you are again punished. Is it not? Because you did not fulfill the terms of your prison life, then again you become criminal. Similarly, those who kills another body, or those who kill another body, or those who make suicide, they become again criminal. Again criminal. This is the law of nature, but they do not know. (Lecture, Calcutta, March 8, 1972)

Just like sometimes a man commits suicide, “I don’t want this life.” So what is the gain? And that is ignorance. He does not know that committing suicide... He’s eternal. He’s eternal. Living entity is eternal. He thinks that “By killing this body, I am free from this bodily miserable condition of life.” No. He’s immediately..., either he has to accept a next abominable body or he’ll have to become a ghost. One who commits suicide. Ghost means no material gross life, but the mental, material subtle life is there. A ghost is carried by the subtle body: mind, intelligence and false ego. (Lecture, Los Angeles, June 25, 1972)

 So it is a concoction, to finish the individuality. It is called spiritual suicide. Just like if a man becomes disappointed and he cuts his own throat or hangs him, some way or other, eats some poison, to finish, does it mean that he is finished? Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. He is rascal. He does not know. By finishing this body he is finished -- no, that is not possible. The result is, because he violated the rules of nature, he becomes a ghost. That is his life. One who commits suicide, he becomes a ghost. Ghost means he does not get this material body. He remains in the subtle body, mind, intelligence. Therefore ghost can go because he is in the mind. Mind speed is very strong. If you have got this material body, you cannot go immediately hundred miles off. But if you are in the mental body, you can go immediately, thousand miles immediately, within a second. So the ghost, they can play something wonderful because... But they are not happy because they have no gross body. They want to enjoy. He’s materialist. He has committed suicide for some material want. So he is want of material..., fulfilling material desire. He could not fulfill in this body; therefore commits suicide, but the desire is there. The desire is there, and he cannot fulfill it. He becomes perplexed. Therefore the ghost create disturbance sometimes. (Lecture, Bombay, January 4, 1975)

 Prabhupada: Yes. Just like in a diseased condition of your eyes you cannot see. In diseased condition of your hands you cannot touch. In diseased condition of your legs you cannot walk. All your senses, in diseased condition, cannot work. Similarly, in material diseased condition you cannot understand what is God. You have to cure yourself from this diseased condition. Then you will see, you will touch, you will perceive, you will know, you will feel -- everything. Those who are unable to cure the disease, they want to kill. Just like a patient is suffering in very bad type of disease. The physician cannot kill, then..., cannot cure him, then he thinks, “Let me die. Let me commit suicide.” So this voidism or impersonalism is a symptom of frustration, not being able to cure the disease. But actually, the living entity is eternal. Just like a rascal or foolish man thinks that “I am suffering so much. Let me commit suicide, and it will be a great relief.” It is foolishness. He will be put into further torture after this life. He will become a ghost. So because they do not know that living creature is eternal, therefore they want to make the ultimate solution as void, zero. But it cannot be zero. It is not possible, because you are eternal. Therefore you have to cure. And that curing process is Krsna consciousness. (Lecture, Montreal, July 4, 1968)

 But that is not the fact.... The fact... Just like a diseased man. He is always drinking bitter medicine, lying on the bed and passing stool in the bed. Very miserable condition. So he wants to commit suicide. So he cannot understand that after being cured from the disease, he will eat very nicely, he will lie down on the bed very nicely, he will no..., have no miserable condition of life. He cannot understand. He says, “Again lying down on the bed and again eating? Oh, this is maya.” They do not know that. Therefore they are called poor fund of knowledge. They think that by avoiding this lila, making minus, making void, making zero, we become liberated. No, that is not liberated. That is a disgusted negation only. And as soon as I am disgusted with something, I want to make it “No.” Just like sometimes a man commits suicide. He thinks that “This life is simply disgusting. So finish this life.” So Mayavadi philosophy is like that. They want to finish this. But finishing, then what you are accepting? That they do not know. Therefore they are Sunyavadi, Nirvisesavadi. If there is life... Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. Simply by committing suicide, how you’ll be happy? Because tatha dehantara-praptih [Bg. 2.13]. You’ll have to accept another body. Either you commit suicide or die naturally, you have to accept. But if you accept natural death and natural body, then your karma ksaya, you annihilate your karma, but if you commit suicide, then you become ghost. Because nature’s punishment. You got a body and you neglected it, so you now you become, remain without body. That is ghost. Ghost means who does not possess this material body, but he has got the subtle body. That is ghost. (Lecture, Vrindavan, March 15, 1974)

...as soul without the body means ghost. Yes, that’s a fact. Ghost means he has got no gross body, but he’s working with the subtle body. We have got two kinds of bodies. The gross body is made of five elements, earth, water, air, fire, sky. And the subtle body is made of intelligence, mind and ego. So when a soul does not get a gross body, he has to work with the subtle body, that is ghostly life. So ghostly life is not false. Those who are too, too much sinful, sometimes they are condemned not to get a gross body. Just like if a man commits suicide. So nature gave him this gross body. He misused it. Therefore he’s punished sometimes not to get again gross body. He becomes ghost. (Lecture, Calcutta, January 31, 1973)

Syamasundara: Yes. So for Christians, suicide is no answer to escape their sinning or their despair. So he says...

Prabhupada: You have committed so many sinful activities, and simply by killing you are trying to escape. In that way you are committing another sin. You are committing another sin. Therefore these persons who commit suicide, they become ghosts. (Philosophy discussion with Syamasundara)

Prabhupada: Just like rascal, one who does not know, he commits suicide. He thinks that “If I commit suicide, then everything is finished.” That is his ignorance. He is going to get another abominable body. Ghost. He becomes a ghost, so that he suffers more. A ghost means he has got subtle body, mental body, mind, intelligence and everything is there. Mind is there, intelligence, ego is there, but no gross body, so he cannot enjoy. That is ghostly life. (ibid.)

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